Vegeta has gone Super Saiyan 3 in the video games and the Dragon Ball Heroes web series, but not once has he ever made use of this form in canon. First off Vegeta was an ssj2 before he fought Goku and before Babidi "cursed" him. BUT, if even after that people is still skeptical, lets analize after evil Shenrons's saga. It was in the Dragon Ball Z Buu Saga that we first ever saw the Super Saiyan 3 transformation. Cause Vegeta should've went SS3. Seeing as how the pure-blooded Saiyans have more troube with transformations than the hybrids do for whatever reason, it makes sense Vegeta just wasn't able to do it because of the fact that he trained on Earth. DBGT shows that his body can handle the transformation also (assuming that if he can handle SSJ4 he can handle SSJ3). Either Vegeta could do it and he didn't want to, or he simply couldn't. did u by any chance miss the saga?TheDarkPrinceReturns! Goku fight and trains so he can protect his family and friends. Gohan as well. Second, because the ending of DBZ, GT's story line was written by someone else. When Babidi made him again pure evil, he was kind of a match for Goku. i think vegeta can go ss3 if he trained hard enough. vegta does not need a got heart to ssj u need pure of evil or good and sayians r born evil evil is the proper and normal way to go, vegeta deos not need a good heart to become anything evil is the way sayains were born evil so evil is the key for a sayian, Just because he had the ability to ascend to Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 2 and Ultra Super Saiyan, does not mean he had the ability to transform to Super Saiyan 3. Before returning to the afterlife, Goku taught Trunks and Goten to draw on the energy created by their Super Saiyan fusion to transform, making it an exceptional case. Princevegeta66 17:24, July 12, 2012 (UTC). SSJ has better balance of power, speed, strength and stamina. All of the Super Saiyan forms have drawbacks, if you look close enough. ", "Both the Daizenshuu and the new Super Exciting Guide character profiles state that Vegeta was awakened to his Super Saiyan 2 form by means of extensive training in between the Cell and Buu arcs, which assures that Vegeta did indeed achieve this transformation through training." Playing next. he IS a super saiyan.just like goku.ive watched every episode of dbz and dbgt. He knew this would happen." Vegeta was never able to train while dead (since he wasnt allowed to have his body). Report. Playing next. Okay, so we've seen two beings ever achieve Super Saiyan 3, correct? That's just what I think, I could be totally wrong. But Vegeta, possessing neither access to training in the afterlife nor the vast energy reserves of a fused fighter, was unable to make the transformation himself. The Dragon Team now realize that the heart virus that Future Trunks warned him about is attacking him. When Vegito fought Buu after he absorbed Goten, Trunks, Gohan etc etc.. Vegito was way more powerful in his base form than Goku in SS1 when he fought Freeza. actually vegeta never went ssj 3 in the dragonball series. And this was after they all achieved the form already. goku did come back from other world in the babidi saga. He understood that it was extremely powerful, yet it had serious drawbacks. Though this cut into the time they had (either on Earth or to stay fused), they both had something that Vegeta did not. His pure-hearted intentions are what drive him to push his limits and the limits of his Super Saiyan powers to new levels. Meaning vegeta was prepare to fight goku but never got change because all they fight in the past ended in a draw. Goku flie… He achieved it because he was dead in otherworld. the only reason why Vegeta reached ss4 is because the writer made a very predictable ending.Thought Both saiyans have an urge to fight, Goku puts his purposes to protecting the universe, Vegeta on the other hand .. he has no purpose anymore since he has settled down on Earth. could goku even had accended without dying????? It's the same with SSJ3. Thus it would be quite difficult for Vegeta to achieve SSJ3, even if he had more than enough power. TheDarkPrinceReturns! I think because of his obession with becoming more powerful than Goku would have caused him to have reached super saiyan 3 shortly after Goku did. Honour Gene's can go SSJ3. :3, 16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC) can i be a super saiyan. The reason Vegeta could'nt go SSJ3 is because Goku is a Honour Gene. A lot of people on here don't think Vegeta can reach SSJ3 all because Goku did it in the otherworld which makes it impossible in the real world. So anything that happens in GT can't be used when arguing about if Vegeta can reach SSJ3 form same deal for most of the movies there are only I think 5 movies that are actually truly connected to the DBZ timeline all the others are not, so using examples from the broly movies don't fit into the whole arguement of if Vegeta can reach SSJ3. DB is full of this small holes, one more is not a surprise! A lone sayain couldnt become stronger as a Ssj1 than Ssj 2 I am a huge vegeta fan and i think vegeta could change if he want to as said on the last espodie of dbz when we fight karrato we are going to need a hold planet. just? It produces a ton of strain and is, to put it simply, an unbalanced form. Super Buu aginst Gotenks was actually losing but he was only at 50%, yes. Goku uses this form to fight Mahin Buu, later stating that he could have beaten MB but did not because he wanted the others to do it because he would not always be around to protect the Earth. Super saiyan 3 transformation consume a lot of ki energy. However, Vegeta wasn't a Honour, instead he is a Pride Gene. Vegeta should be perfectly capable of reaching through to Super Sayian 3, since Goku said reaching a higher power comes through need and not always through wanting it. well,goku was the main reason he trained to ascend BUT what makes you think he couldnt go all the way? 2:16. The writter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! While Baby Vegeta came close to unlocking the form back in Dragon Ball GT, this seems to be the first time he has used the power outright in the anime. While Goku was able to achieve this in a ritual with Vegeta, Gohan, Trunks, Goten, and Pan, it was revealed that Vegeta had also achieved Super Saiyan God, … 6 years ago | 206 views. vegeta is garbage....several times he fight somebody he says im the prince of sayians and gets his ass kicked look at the broly movie took him like 20 seconds to get knocked out, First, Vegeta is capable to reach ss3 . Cell, the Androids, and Buu were mulitple time stronger then Frieza and he had to get stronger to beat them. But if all of this is somehow untrue, then I can see why he wouldn't want to use ssj3. Goku and Vegeta will forever be even both are cear cut super saiyan 1,and 2 but with vegeta he never had a chance to go ssj3 and the ssj4 goku got help just like vegeta he had the elder kai put out his tail just as vegeta had bulma help grow his tail so both had help reaching ssj4. he was only elping telepathically. that brougt his strength up. To have attained SSJ3, Goku would've had to master SSJ3 and reach it's peak. Great Ape/SSJ3 completely disturb this balance. Super Saiyan 3 (超 サイヤ人 三, Chō Saiya-jin San) is the strongest of all Super Saiyan forms in the manga and Dragon Ball Z anime. One can say the same with vegeta. If he had the same point as increaseing and training himself as Goku, i believe his powers would have grown ............................. falalalallalalalalallalalalalalalalala the writer of GT should have thought about what he was doing .. why does Gero look like Myuu, why does the Sigma Force have poses like Ginyu Force, why did Vegeta lose his natural hair ? RELATED: Dragon Ball Z: The Anime's 10 Most Hated Characters, Ranked When Baby took control over Vegeta their power levels got combined in a way so Baby Vegeta is as strong as SSJ, Super Baby SSJ2, Super Baby 2 SSJ3 so Vegeta has actually reached the power of Super Saiyan 3 just like when Ginyu took over Goku's body Baby didnt know how to properly use Vegeta's powers he just transform into i guess you could call it Super Tuffle. Follow. Follow. Toriyama must not have had much interest in making Vegeta SS3 because that would sort of take the wind away from Goku, where this is a series where Goku is the hero, Goku is in the spotlight. Yeah vegeta probably couldnt have become ssj3 But, vegeta in early DBZ was very smart but when he became a SSJ he wasnt as smart. Android 20 explains that they know the healing powers of the Senzu Bean, and that they will not allow him the time he needs to heal. he got his tail unlike with Vegetta. Goku revealed that he had discovered the form while training for seven years in the afterlife, granting him a significant boost over Super Saiyan 2. Le stade de Super Saiyan 3est énergivore, et l'utilisateur ne peut rester sous cette forme que pendant une courte durée. Le Super Saiyan 3 est largement supérieur au Super Saiyan 2en termes de puissance, de rap… Do you plan on showing off and toying with your opponent? However, Vegeta and Goku are exactly the same as SSJ2 and Vegeta can stay in the SSJ2 form as long as Goku can, hinting that his energy reserves are pretty large. SSJ5 if it exists is x10,000. goku on the other hand trained in other world to reach his ss2 & 3 form which was VERY easier as otherworld has more of an advantage in training than earth. I think vegeta could go ssj3 because he and goku were equal when they were ssj2. Even … Actually, Super Saiyan 3 is different from the other Super Saiyan transformations due to the fact that the only thing needed is to use one's full energy, ki, power and potential to reach it. Here are some real reliable facts. SSJ2/Base Form are worse in balance. Actually Gohan wasnt Mystic when he faced Broly as an adult.If he was Mystic he wouldnt need his ssj1 an ssj2K1lp1k0nna 09:50, June 14, 2012 (UTC)K1lp1k0nna. For Goku to have closed the gap isnt surprising but youre trying to tell me that Vegeta closed the gap without ever reaching ssj3? Vegeta always wanted to surpass Goku, I can gurantee that Vegeta trained all those years to be able to stand up to Goku. : Some of the fighters in the other world tournament were shown to get tired. or maybe he just need to train in other world like goku did. Browse more videos. Notably, it appears that this form can onl… The best GIFs are on GIPHY. yes they are fused when they do it but vegeta is stronger then themi beleive(*edited* .. are you stupid ? Secondly, he is comparing Goku during completely different times of his life, not to mention the fact that Vegito is Goku AND Vegeta fused together. Vegeta goes Super Saiyan for the first time.mp4. So yeah, clear? And finnally Vegeta could go ssj3. Search, discover and share your favorite Super Saiyan 3 GIFs. He was in Otherworld for the 7 years after Cell and learned SSJ3, then he trained even more so he could use it with a body. Vegetta did accomplished his SSJ3 form but it's never shown at the anime....there's an existing databook about their power levels and it is shown that both of them reached SSJ4 although Vegetta can only achieve it via Blitz Wave....a saiyan can't possibly become SSJ4 without enough power level >.> so if I were you peepz we should all just accept the fact that Goku and Vegetta are even in terms of power.. Goku only manage to transform to his SSJ4 form bec. You can follow him on Twitter @samstoneshow and ask him about Nintendo, pop punk, and Star Trek. Find GIFs with the latest and newest hashtags! Lady’s Gigantification Quirk, Netflix's The Idhun Chronicles is Basically a Kylo Ren & Rey Love Story, One-Punch Man Reveals Tornado's Relationship to Blast. Dragonball GT Episode 59 Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta. in the kid buu saga vegeta realised dat the reason goku surpasses him everytime is cuz he does not fight for power, but rather test himself to higher limits. Potara can fuse tow any levels of power and the Dance can only fuse even powers. The reasons to why he didnt transform are various, so I dont need to quote them here; but this includes the fact that he didnt need it, that producers forgot or never though about it, or even if in the cirscunstances the SSJ2 form was always a better choice. Yeah, thats the only reason goku went ssj3 and thats the only reason he's alive. Back to the original topic of this thread, I also do not think it was possible for Vegeta to go SSJ3, mainly because of the aformentioned reason that Goku only learned it in Otherworld where he didn't have the restraints of a physical body. They only see Goku transform to SSJ3 once and on a space of a few weeks, the 2 kids manage to transform to SSJ3 form. Why would he ask Goku? 20:19, April 6, 2010 (UTC), yes i know goku returned in the saiyaman saga but wot i meant to say was he was on earth during the babidi saga. 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